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November 6, 2008

England- Football Trophies Chart, inclusive to 30th May 2009.

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[Chart now includes 2008-2009 League Cup Title and 2008-2009 Premier League Title, both to Manchester United;  and 2008-2009 FA Cup Title, to Chelsea.] 

This chart measures major trophies won by English football clubs,  since the first FA Cup Final, in 1872,  up to the 2008 Champions League Final of  21st May, 2008.   The clubs’ kits are shown in descending size,  to represent major trophies won.

Six different titles are represented,  with three of these titles given half weight.  

The 3 titles given full weight are1. FA Cup,  1872-2008  [official name: the Football Association Challenge Cup].   2. English First Division Title,  1890-1992/ Premier League Title,  1993-2008).   3. European Cup,  1956-1992/ UEFA Champions League Title,  1993-2008.

The 3 titles given half-weight are 4. League Cup,  1961-2008  [official name: the Football League Cup].   5. Fairs Cup,  1958-1971  [the official name was the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup]/ UEFA Cup,  1972-2008.    6. UEFA Cup Winners’ Cup,  1961-1999 [defunct].

Shown are the top 26 currently existing League clubs.  When two or more clubs were tied on total weighted trophies (ie, 2 points for League Title, FA Cup,  or Champions League Title;  1 point for League Cup,  UEFA Cup,  or Cup Winners’ Cup),  I listed the most recent title-winner first.   This occurred four times:  between #’s 10.-11.,   #’s 12.-13.,   #’s 18.-21.,  and  #’s 23.-24.   

Defunct, or Amatuer/ Non-League clubs who won FA Cups in the 19th Century are listed at the far right, bottom.  The first FA Cup took place on 16th March, 1872  {see this}.  The match was won by Wanderers FC {see this},  who hailed from Battersea Park, south-west London.  They defeated Royal Engineers 1-0,  at Kennington Oval,  in Lambeth,  south London.  There were less than 2,000 spectators.  Here is a nice account,  from the FA- CupFinals site  [Note,  when you click to the site,  go to the blue bar at far left,  and click on "1870s" below the  'Final Details'  list  {Click here}.

As it happens,  every football club that has won the English Title made the top 26.  [On the list of trophies below each club's kit,  the English Title is referred to as "League Title".]   Two clubs that have never won the English Title are in the top 26:  Bolton Wanderers and West Ham United.  The Trotters have won the FA Cup 4 times,  the last a half-century ago in 1958.  Bolton’s highest league finish was one season later,  in 1959,  when they finished in 4th place.  They did manage a 6th place finish in 2005.  The Hammers have won 3 FA Cups (their last in 1980) and a Cup Winners’ Cup (in 1965);  the East London club’s best league finish was 5th place in 1999.

There are 9 currently existing clubs that have won just one FA Cup,  but no other major trophies.  They are listed at the far right of the chart,  at the top.  There are similarly 9 clubs that have won League Cups, but no other major trophies,  including Leicester City,  who have won the League Cup 3 times,  and Norwich City, winners of this trophy twice (see far right, center).  

All kits are up to date,  for the 08/09 season.

Thanks to the Colours Of Football site (http://www.colours-of-football.com),  for the kits.

Thanks to the Albion Road site  {Click here},  for fact-checking…which is a way of saying thanks to Jeremy for convincing me that I should include the Cup Winners’ Cup titles in the chart. 

10 Comments »

  1. Happy to help Bill. The Cup Winners’ Cup always seemed to turn up some interesting matchups. For example, the 1981 final – Dinamo Tbilisi vs Carl Zeiss Jena. And quite a few other unlikely winners over the years – KV Mechelen, Slovan Bratislava, 1. FC Magdeburg, etc. And I just generally like cup competitions and it’s a bad sad how their profile seems in such decline.

    Commenter’s Site: http://albionroad.com
    Answer: Yeah, pure cup competitions are great. It’s too bad the UEFA Cup insists on maintaining the group stage aspect when they re-brand as the Europa League. In this months’s World Soccer magazine, they say that what the UEFA Cup should really do is make the winner an automatic entrant to the following season’s Champions League, which is a great idea to elevate the importance of this competition in a single stroke. Just think…an English club could totally bypass the dominance of the big 4 this way, and get into the lucrative promised land of the Champions League. You sure wouldn’t see a club like Bolton fielding second stringers, deep in the UEFA Cup, like they did last season.

    Comment by jeremy — November 6, 2008 @ 10:49 am

  2. Great content! Keep up the good work!>
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    Answer: Thanks.

    Comment by SimpleMeditationTechniques — November 7, 2008 @ 5:04 am

  3. <p>is liverpool the most famous club in England?</p>
    Answer: That’s a tough question. I would have to say it’s Manchester United, because they have won so many titles in recent years (last 15 years).

    Comment by Mike — November 9, 2008 @ 4:15 am

  4. Man United have won 3 Champions League titles (1968, 1999, 2008). Please correct the chart :)

    Answer: Sorry about that.

    Comment by T — November 22, 2008 @ 3:36 pm

  5. Excellent chart (although the full version still only gives United 2 Champions’ Leagues titles)!

    Will you be producing an updated version at the end of the season? According to my maths, United currently lead Liverpool having won the League Cup in March.

    Using a nominal points system of 10 points for League, FA Cup and European Cup and 5 points for League Cup, UEFA Cup, Cup Winners’ Cup (in order to reflect your full and half-weights) I reckon that Manchester United stand on 345 points while Liverpool stand on 340.

    All this could change depending on who wins the league this season, of course.

    Commenter’s site: http://www.unitedviews.co.uk

    Answer: Thanks for making a comment, and for the praise. I will fix the mistake you found as soon as I can today. I will be updating the chart after the CL final and the FA Cup final. I will do the arithmatic later today to see if you are correct, and if MUFC will be supplanting LFC at the top.

    Comment by UnitedViews — May 15, 2009 @ 1:57 am

  6. <p>Hang on! I think the chart needs a little more work…</p>
    <p>I’ve just checked this and I’ve spotted that as well as the Champion’s League error you’ve also got the number of League Cups wrong. Liverpool have won it 7 times, not 5, and United have only won it 3 times (2 at the time you published the chart), not 5.</p>
    <p>All this means (I think) that United would need to win both the League and European Cup this season in order to draw level with Liverpool. If they do this, then by your own rule when clubs are tied United would be placed at Number 1 having won their titles more recently.</p>
    <p>A full update at the season’s end would be much appreciated!</p>

    Answer: Thanks. You know, I double checked everything, and there are still errors. Man, I am getting old and stupid.

    Answer (later that day): I have fixed the errors, and added to the chart Manchester United’s two latest trophies, the 2009 League Cup Title and the all-but-sewn-up 2008-2009 Premier League Title.

    And UnitedViews is correct…if Manchester United wins the 2008-2009 Champions League Title over FC Barcelona, MUFC will supplant Liverpool at the top of the chart. I will update the chart after that match and the 2008-2009 FA Cup final (between Chelsea and Everton). Finally, one other change I made on the chart is that I put in West Ham United’s new sponsor logo on their jersey.

    Comment by UnitedViews — May 15, 2009 @ 2:11 am

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